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| Posted By: |
Yogini |
| Date: |
15-Dec-2004-08:44:31 |
| Subject: |
Direct Experience |
The following is in response to a post I made:
"It is through meditation that we can eventually
have a direct experience of being an indivisible part of
the cosmic consciousness. I think it is important here to
stress the distinction between different types of
knowing. There is the knowing of something intellectually,
and the knowing of something experientially. For example,
I "know" how to play the flute: blow over the hole in one
end and run your fingers up and down the keys. If you
gave me flute however, I wouldn't be able to produce a
single note with it.
So too is it with meditation overcoming ignorance as defined
by Patanjali. It is one thing to know, on an intellectual
level, that we are just part of the mind of Brahman. It
is quite another to have a direct experience of that fact
through the practice of impeccable meditation."
What I don't see is the difference between "intellectual knowing" and "direct experience." Isn't it just different types of experiences of the same thing? I know...I know...they keep telling me that I am only speaking of it on an intellectual level. But it all happens within mind, so, what's the difference? How can any thought we have not be a "direct experience?" Doesn't it just depend on the intensity of the thought? Whether we have a realization on an intellectual level or in deep meditation, aren't they both direct experiences? Doesn't Enlightenment happen within the mind? So, how is it not intellectual?
As for the flute reference above, well, that's possible to, if I were in the necessary state of mind. I could start out knowing the "how-tos" intellectually, and without actually having done it before, be able to play it by being in the right state of mind. It's what miracles are made from.
So, what I am saying is that thought itself can be a direct experience.
I don't think we give enough credit to our thoughts. It seems that the "direct experience" the poster above was referring to is like a goal that we can accomplish after tedious meditations. What if we realized that our daily thoughts can be a direct experience and not just an intellectual knowing? Wouldn't that make the "goal" closer and even possible to attain? Than to think that it would only come through meditation? Isn't our daily lives a meditation?
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