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Arul |
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For The Record,
Posted by: mlurtsema |
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16-Dec-2003-14:59:13 |
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Re: For The Record |
I'm actually going to assume you mean the last line as an honest question and not just as a rhetorical device.
While I do think it takes some fwam to come on this site and be posting under your name, and I do agree with Rama that unity is better than not, for myself, there is a moment of pause in looking at your olive branch offer...
And the best explanation I can give for that pause is something I am seeing a little bookmark the American Buddha people gave out one year at an ERI dinner, and the phrase on the little bookmark contains what for me is the crux of the matter:
"Honor is when there is a line you just don't cross."
For me, the day that your media quotes became part of the interference in the teaching of meditation classes (and I have been kicked out of places based on articles with words underlined, some of which were yours, so please don't say just because you never joined CAN formally, you are innocent of what went down with how the media stuff trashed teachers and classes and new students)...that's the day the line got drawn in a way that I haven't seen you address yet. I went out teaching under empowerment from the world of enlightenment. You interfered with the spreading of dharma, and I haven't seen you address that yet.
I realize our culture doesn't teach the idea of women and honor in the same sentence, and yet I was ordained as a Buddhist monk with the same empowerment as the guys, given teaching empowerments from the world of enlightenment the same as the guys, and I feel as passionately about dharma as any guy that comes here.
And you crossed the line.
This isn't about you and Rama (hey, that honestly IS between you and Rama; that last phrase I personally heard Rama use about you was "goomba"), this isn't about you and me on any personal level as we never spent much time around each other, this isn't about you and the sangha (I figure you have to address each of them individually, and I can certainly respect some of them had family situations which were worsened by your words and you will need to deal with each of those folks individually--I certainly don't like getting lumped into a group statement, and I would expect many other people don't either.)
Between you and me, this is the heart of the matter.
There's a line where we don't interfere with new people coming to light. And your media words did just that. I had vivid first hand experience of that.
To me, you lack honor because of that. And I honestly don't care if you decide to address that in this incarnation or not. Your olive branch is meaningless to me if you don't make amends in that area first.
I have done you the courtesy of speaking truthfully. I know you were ordained by Rama, too.
"Honor is when there is a line you just don't cross." --Rama
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