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firebird |
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VC2's response,
Posted by: CGI_Guy |
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10-Mar-2003-05:18:23 |
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Re: VC2's response |
okay, so VC pushed things too far. i told him i thought he was doing so. and i doubt he gives much of a shit what anyone thinks of him either. still, i owe him atleast somewhat of a defense here. (tho should he hear of it, he'll poohpooh it as well.)
nevertheless, VC has his own approach to Rama and the teachings. and...don't we all? but VC was my mentor from the beginning, and tho we've at times waged war with each other even, i will always appreciate his presence in my life. he introduced me to a world of absolute magic, the world of Enlightenment, and i don't care what happens beyond *that* point, i'm somehow forever indebted to him for that.
and so he rages around like some crazy devourer of nagas, despite when those nagas are his very own comrades on the 'journey'. he's often completely rude and entirely irreverant. he has no attachment whatsoever to codes of conduct, modes of being or expectations of acceptable behavior. when he's got something on his mind he calls it exactly as he sees it. exactly, with very little editing involved (this is mars in the first house. the unchecked cynicism, too many planets conjunct in Capricorn). but i have always appreciated this irreverance and slash-and-burn approach to cutting-through everything egoic and otherwise. nothing sutric or dogmatic or egoic stands for very long in interacting with him on a spiritual level. i didn't understand it when i was 21, but i definitely see the value of it now. (i must've incarnated on a Kali-line. you know i've had so much involvement with this type of approach to practice, tho Buddhism is where it's at for me really.) whenever i've felt i've become a little too firm in my beliefs or my 'self', i merely take an afternoon to hang-out with..VC. he puts all that shit to rest right quick. and that, in my mind, is damn fine of him. there's always compassion inherent in it. and tho i will argue with him till i'm frustrated enough to leave or simply quit the conversation, i know that he's over it as quickly as i am, and we remain friends nevertheless.
anyho, my point i guess here is that there seems to be a value to someone who pushes our buttons, who calls it like they see it, who has a no-holds-barred approach to their own standpoint on things. there's a value to *practice* involved. and i realize most of those here who interacted with VC made every attempt to deal with the exchange with as much etiquette and awareness and tolerance and humor as possible. i see that people simply got sick of dealing with the shit, and i really can't say that i blame em. however, i will still pay tribute to a great being here. i've shared many lifetimes with this bird and i undersand him somewhat. at times i find his irreverance hilarious. it's cuttingly close to the bone, which is...amusing, to say the least, pure genius at other times. really. he teaches a *smokin* meditation class. he's incredibly insightful and perceptive. his seeing is so on-key. his compassion runs so deep it's almost as tho it reflects into the manifest realm as negativity (y'know that idea that every thing light reflects itself in equal darkness and vice versa). in short i guess i'd say that VC very very much fits the bill of one of those mad yogis or saddhus who hangs-out insulting people for their own good and...seeing as the ego, whether i experientially embody the realization or not, exists as entirely illusory, the entire phenomenon of this i find to be intensely interesting.
it's been interesting watching every one here deal with his posts. i'm not saying either that i agree with him on anything here beyond the anti-Shrub discussion, only that i have a little more insight on the speaker.
anyway, rage on. we're all grown-ups (?) responsible for our own actions.
namaste.
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