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Jim |
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Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor,
Posted by: UT |
| Date: |
6-Jan-2007-03:39:55 |
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Uncomfortableness |
What is it that makes us uncomfortable with our selves?
It's funny that you should bring this up because I was pondering the tonal and nagual yesterday and came to much the same conclusion. To refresh our memories, the tonal is the island of ideas that we have and the nagual is the sea in which that island is located. Right and wrong are ideas of the tonal. The ultimate manifestation of the tonal is the nearly constant stream of thoughts that run through our minds. When those thoughts stop for an extended period we become open to the nagual.
So individual seekers are given a set of ideals to strive for. An example of this would be the eight fold path of Buddhism. They then examine the right and wrong things in their tonal and perform surgery to remove the wrong and add more right. But while these ideas are a better way to live within the tonal, they are still ideas that stream through the mind of the seeker blocking out the direct experience of the nagual.
This of course is well and good because it's necessary to build a strong focus in order to probe deeply into the nagual. And that probing happens in meditation where the seeker puts aside the ideas in order to have a direct experience. Thus there is a reason for each component of traditional schools of Zen and many other schools of practice.
The problem of course occurs when the seekers become attached to the ideas that they have been given. The ideas, which were intended to be a tool to streghten the mind, then become part of the attachments that Buddhism itself was intended to overcome.
The seekers then run the risk of becoming stuck in the ideas and rejecting those who try to point out that the ideas that create the sense of "imperfections" in their minds still prevent them from seeing that enlightenment is already within themselves.
In the final analysis, what the seeker thinks becomes unimportant. What's important is that they have an outrageous ability to focus and control their thoughts so that they can shut them down at will.
Someone who can do that probably pisses off a seeker who is on a traditional pathway a lot because they can do anything that they want and still blow out the doors of any meditation hall.
Seems like Rama had this kind of affect on just about everyone at one time or another. I think that he understood why we sometimes got pissed off. And he probably wished that we would come to the understanding that you're pointing to above. :o)
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